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The Universal Truth of "God Supreme"

Topic started by virarajendra on Tue Apr 15 13:51:58 2008. [Full View]

"The Universal Truth of "God Supreme"

The "God Supreme" of the religions that sprung from India and of the other world religions - "is none but one"

In India the "God Supreme" was given many different 'forms' and 'names' by various "Hindu Religious Beliefs" - as God Siva (Shiva) in Saivaism, as God Vishnu in Vaishnavaism, Goddess Shakthi in Shaktham, God Kanapathi in Kanapathiyam, God Skanda in Kaumaram, and as God Agni in Vedism - (collectively known as "Hinduism") - and was worshiped by Hindus from the time immemorial.

The above God Forms never took birth in this world in human forms. Hence they were called by the prefix title (the) "God"

However in Vaishnavaism it was further considered that God Vishnu took ten incarnations in this world, among which are the incarnations as Lord Rama and Lord Krishna.

The Jainism and Buddhism preached by Lord Mahaveer and Lord Buddha - being two other religions of India, upheld the principle of non-existance of God. Sikism recognised "God Supreme" as the Guru (Preacher) to the mankind.

Among the world religions - the Islamic religion referred to the "God Supreme" of no specific form or name as "Allah", and Prophet Mohammad as the Messenger of the "God Supreme".

The Christian religion referred to Lord Jesus Christ as the Son of the "God Supreme" of no specific form or name. Judaism too recognised the existance of the "God Supreme" of no specific form or name.

Hence it should be understood that - "no Religion in this World is superior to the other" - as all these Religions worship finally to the 'One and only' Ultimate - the "God Supreme"

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From: joe on Mon May 5 12:08:00 2008. [Full View]

virarajendra wrote:

'One and only' Ultimate - the "God Supreme"

All will accept this ..but everybody will argue that the one they worship is the real GOD supreme.
From: pizzalot on Mon May 5 14:24:51 2008. [Full View]

So many religions.. but why is there always Master-Servant rhetoric ? Why is the Supreme .. Almighty stuff ? Why is "worship" instead of "homeage" or "respect" or "just hello .. or a bye" , even assuming that there is "One" ? Does "The Supreme Being" expect that I worship him ?

Could He or She actually was a creature from more advanced Culture that was alien to the society ? What if "God the Supreme" is already lost along with that culture, leaving behind only "knowledge" ? (Like Veda, Genesis, Scriptures etc)

Why so many "He" and very few 'shes" in the religions mentioned ? Is that because of too much testosterone in the religion ? Is it a proof that "The Supreme" is in man's imagination only ?

And not to mention "The Supreme Being" are realized by those who lived in the past and some belief is always needed .. cannot be seen and can only be realized .. rhetorics.

Even assuming he is for real and he is found out .. (just like some people claiming to have discovered anti-matter,black hole etc) what happens next ? Does our relationship with him change ? Will we still revere him ?

From: Shakthiprabha. on Wed May 7 2:39:15 2008.

HI pizzalot, I shall try to share my opinion based on how little I know.

Anbuk kathir and others who are much more wiser can guide me wherever I am wrong.

pizzalot wrote:

So many religions.. but why is there always Master-Servant rhetoric ? Why is the Supreme .. Almighty stuff ?

Because one is complete or realised and other is not so!
The master servant theory is for ppl in different steps of realisation.

Why is "worship" instead of "homeage" or "respect" or "just hello .. or a bye" , even assuming that there is "One" ? Does "The Supreme Being" expect that I worship him ?

No you need not worship. You can just say hello or hi or talk to the
so called supreme thing. There is nothing like 'something is supreme and other is not'. Definitely it does not EXPECT you to worship Smile

Smile

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suppose,

human + knowlege = wise person
human - knowledge = Ignorant person

human however REMAINS the same and IS THE SAME with or without knowledge.

So, the supreme being and the ordinary beings are ESSENTIALLY the same. Application of knowledge is limited or lacks in the ordinary beings.

Could He or She actually was a creature from more advanced Culture that was alien to the society ? What if "God the Supreme" is already lost along with that culture, leaving behind only "knowledge" ? (Like Veda, Genesis, Scriptures etc)

There is NOTHING SEPERATELY called GOD, which u can term as HE OR SHE or a creature.

GOD is plain EXISTENCE.

Why so many "He" and very few 'shes" in the religions mentioned ? Is that because of too much testosterone in the religion ? Is it a proof that "The Supreme" is in man's imagination only ?

God is NATURE. Most hes and shes are PERSONIFICATIONS of nature.

And not to mention "The Supreme Being" are realized by those who lived in the past and some belief is always needed ..

Right here, in this world, in current era, THERE ARE REALISED souls. They just dont say it out or talk about it (because it cannot be explained theoritically it has to experienced)

cannot be seen and can only be realized .. rhetorics.

yes. Its ITS AN EXPERIENCE, not an entity

Even assuming he is for real and he is found out .. (just like some people claiming to have discovered anti-matter,black hole etc) what happens next ? Does our relationship with him change ? Will we still revere him ?

We become THAT. Where is the question of revering something when EVERYTHING around is just THE SAME THING Confused

Confused

From: pizzalot on Thu May 8 16:39:33 2008. [Full View]

Thanks Shakthi. Actually I know there is no correct answer. The ideas was to see how differently you see things based on your experience.

Now another question. God= Existance. God=Me. So I always existed, correct ?

So did I exist before birth ? As what ?
From: anbu_kathir on Fri May 9 0:32:40 2008. [Full View]

pizzalot wrote:

So did I exist before birth ? As what ?

Answers may be given. But how do we know if it is true or false? What logic would one apply to it?

Love and Light.
From: Shakthiprabha. on Fri Oct 10 10:57:26 2008. [Full View]

Found this interesting!

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Complete_Works_of_Swami_Vivekananda/Volume_7/Conversations_And_Dialogues/VI
From: anbu_kathir on Sat Oct 11 0:16:13 2008. [Full View]

Shakthiprabha wrote:

Found this interesting!

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Complete_Works_of_Swami_Vivekananda/Volume_7/Conversations_And_Dialogues/VI

" The case of ordinary Jivas is like that of the salt - doll which attempting to sound the depths of the ocean melted into it. Do you see? The sum and substance of it is -- you have only got to know that you are Eternal Brahman. "

Aaha...only Masters can put it so eloquently.

Love and Light.
From: virarajendra on Tue Mar 10 14:26:08 2009. [Full View]

Brought Forward
From: anbu_kathir on Wed Mar 11 7:29:05 2009. [Full View]

virarajendra wrote:

Brought Forward

Its kind of sad that the "Universal truth of God-Supreme" should be 'brought forward' now and then

Just kidding.. thanks virarajendra.

Love and light.
From: pradheep on Mon Mar 23 17:28:13 2009. [Full View]

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So did I exist before birth ? As what ?

Even now "I" exist as thoughts (thinking machine). Before birth also the same. This continues until a thoughtless state, the Source , the witness of all thoughts.

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